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Dale2670



Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Best point and shoot camera that is small, ALSO IT HAS TO TA Reply with quote
I am currently looking for a digital camera that is a small point and shoot one. I am considering a Nikon CoolPix s7c, i have read alot of good reviews on it and i was wondering if anyone knows any other good digital cameras that are small point and shoot. IT HAS TO TAKE GREAT PICTURES WITHOUT A FLASH! Right now i have a FujiFillm FinePix z5 fd, and it is really noisy and does not take good pictures without a flash UNLESS someone tells me the proper settings i should have on it to take a good non-noisy picture without a flash. ++ i am in a photo class and i am getting bad grades in it because my pictures are blurry and noisy!
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DaleT



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Best point and shoot camera that is small, ALSO IT HAS TO TA Reply with quote
You're in photo class and the instructor won't tell you how to do this??? That sucks.You can probably make out just fine with the camera that you have, if you only knew how.1. Use a tripod or other means of holding the camera totally still. This way, they won't be blurry.2. Use the self-timer set to 10 seconds to release the shutter. This gives everything time to "settle down" after you press the button. 5 seconds is probably enough if your camera lets you make a custom setting. This will also help with the blurring problem.3. Use the lowest ISO possible, sticking to ISO 100 or 200. This will help with the noise problem.The problem with your camera is probably the small sensor and the Nikon S7c would not be much better, as it also has a small sensor. If you are shopping for an upgrade, look at a few other Fuji's, which are known as the "Low Light Kings" - the F31fd, F40fd, or F50fd. For instance, here's an ISO 800 sample from the F50fd: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/fujif50fd_samples/originals/dscf6091.jpg Yeah, there is some noise when you view this at 100%, but look at those highlights! This is a pretty sharp camera.Here are a couple at ISO 100. Click on the magnifier icon (your cursor) and check them out all the way in the darkest shadows. Again, you CAN see some noise, but it's not bad for a point and shoot:http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/fujif50fd_samples/originals/dscf3075.jpghttp://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/fujif50fd_samples/originals/dscf7088.jpgYou can go here and see more samples: http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/fujif50fd_samples/Here are a few of my own low light shots, showing that it can be done with many different point and shoot cameras. Read the settings in the caption under each image to get an idea what I used to get these results.Canon SD900: http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/2059201102/http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/2047061808/http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/2119933026/http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/842992586/ - Okay, there is some noise there, but it's lit by a single match and shot at ISO 3200. I used a tripod and the self-timer, though, so it's not blurry.Nikon Coolpix 4600 - a cheap camera with a small sensor:http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/441244806/http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/412315822/Just to tease you... This is what you can do if you move up from the point and shoot world. I'm just putting these here to show you the value of a larger sensor in taming low light noise.Nikon D200:http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/449115543/Nikon D300: http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/2157229155/http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/2142647483/
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DanaA



Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Posts: 8

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Best point and shoot camera that is small, ALSO IT HAS TO TA Reply with quote
First, I doubt there is anything wrong with the camera you have. IMO, 95% of the problems people have with their cameras is due to their not knowing how to use the camera. So I suggest you thoroughly READ & STUDY the Owner's Manual for your camera. That is how you learn to use your camera and get the best results from it. Apparently most people figure out how to turn the camera on and what button to push and then don't understand why the results are lousy. Then they start fiddling with settings without knowing what those settings do and how, when and why to use them. Now their camera is so messed up that they think only a new camera will solve their problems. READ & STUDY that Owner's Manual and learn how to use the camera you own. Buying a new camera will not help your photography.The instructor in your photography class must be a very poor excuse for an instructor - unless you have failed to ask for help.Be thankful you have the opportunity to take classes and also ask questions in here. When I bought my first SLR in 1971 it was me, the camera and the Owner's Manual.
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daljack



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Best point and shoot camera that is small, ALSO IT HAS TO TA Reply with quote
I know how you feel. When I was learning to drive, I totalled four cars before I found one that worked properly.
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