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katsdrama
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:40 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| I am looking to take photos of sporting events and need to know what type of cameras would be good for indoor and non-indoor photography. I see news photojournalist use camera indoors without at flash at sporting events, I just don't know what they are using. Money isn't an issue, I just want a good camera. |
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phatzwave
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| I've taken some great indoor flashless shots with just my Nikon D-70. A more professional grade would be the Nikon D-200. |
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DrSam4629
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| You want a digital SLR where you can choose the lens to suit the occasion. There are lenses that are much better in low light and this is what the pros that you see are using.If "money isn't an issue" for real, I'd suggest that you look at the Nikon D200 or Canon 30D. I own the D200 (as do many of our members here) and you can do a lot with this camera. It has sufficiently fast continuous shooting for all but the most hard-core professional sports photographers. That's the best way to capture action like this:http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/1316716419/or this:http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/tags/goose/Here are my stock answer on the D200 and a bit of comparison between the D200 and 30D:~~~~~~~~~~Nikon D200There are others, but when I made the decision about my dream camera when I considered EVERYTHING, I chose the D200. I had owned a number of other digital cameras and finally decided that it was time to buy "simply the best" camera available, regardless of the cost. For me - and many others in the real world - this meant the D200. It doesn't weigh 5 pounds and I don't need all the features and burst performance that a professional sports photographer might demand.The only other "real world" consideration, as far as I am concerned, was the Canon EOS 5D. I already owned 3 exceptional Nikon lenses, though, so my choice was clear. Not to mention, the Canon 5D costs about twice as much. Even in "the sky's the limit" buying, relative value still counts.http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond200/http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/d200.htmlhttp://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htmhttp://www.popphoto.com/cameras/1844/camera-test-nikon-d200-dslr.htmlhttp://www.popphoto.com/cameras/2402/editors-choice-2006-advanced-d-slrs.htmlSee this comparison of the Nikon D200 vs. the Canon 5D. Each camera has its advantages.http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Nikon-D200-vs-Canon-EOS-5D-Head-to-Head-Review-.htm [Note the navigation menu near the top of the review]I have a few photos on Flickr taken with the D200 and various Nikon lenses. Go to my page at http://www.flickr.com/photos/samfeinstein/tags/d200/~~~~~~~~~~Nikon D200 vs. Canon 30DYou will get many emotional responses to this question. I own a Nikon D200 and admit that the Canon 30D is an equally competent camera. When you get to this level, you should have your own individual preferences developed to the point that you would really have to just go to a camera shop and handle both cameras to see which one you prefer.If you go hear and spend an hour clicking on all the links, you will see that Ken Rockwell - a huge Nikon fan - says that there is no difference in the final product.http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dslr-comparison/index.htmThis means that YOU have to go to a camera shop and pick up both cameras and see which one feels the best to you. My choice was the D200, but I'm not you and you might like the lighter-weight Canon better.~~~~~~~~~~If you choose one of these, please come back and ask about lens selection for sporting events for that specific brand. |
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david_y_lai
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| I agree with Dr. Sam, but instead of the Canon 30D you should check out the Canon 40D with a 6.5 f/sAnd get yourself some good VR/IS lenses with f stops of 2.5 or more |
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gretsch16pc0434
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| I have a Canon XTi DSLR, no shutter delay and I believe the 8MP XT is in the same class...NO SHUTTER DELAY.Try www.bhphotovideo.com demos, reviews and a complete Professional staff on hand to answer all your questions.As far as I know all of those pocket digitals and point and shoot digitals have a shutter delay..or..lag time. |
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mungee
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| "Money isn't an issue"Are you sure? Coz if that were true then you need to check out the 10mp/10fps 1D Mk.III ($4500 for the body) or the upcoming 22mp/5fps 1Ds Mk.III ($8000 for body).But thats just the body and that takes care of good high ISO performance now you need to add some lens that excel in low light performance. This means you are looking at a constant aperture f/2.8 lineup. Something like the 300mm f/2.8L IS ($3,900) or even the 400mm f/2.8L IS ($6,500).This is the sort of gear that professional sports photographers would be using on the side lines of professional sporting events. If money really isn't an issue then the only downside is being able to physically carry this equipment (it gets heavy) and if thats not an issue you will be hard pressed to find a better set up from even Nikon. Others may think otherwise but 11fps in DX mode (5.1mp) on the FF D3 and just 64 frames in 9 fps JPEG mode (donno how many in RAW) really makes one think about how many corners have been cut to get # close to what Canon already has. Oh and there is no VR in the 300mm f/2.8.Off course you can "climb down" from this set up to something like the 40D if you want 6.5fps at 10mp (or even some Nikon combination), but if you really want the best image quality (pro) then you need to have really good lenses and there is nothing better out there. |
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Jaromir
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| ahoj It depends on O B J E C T I V (-: |
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MichaelM
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| It's not exactly the camera that is taking the pics. It's that they are using an SLR in manual mode controlling the apertureand shutter and ISO rating to get the non-flash pics.You can do this with digital or film SLR camera.Film Camera I reccommend Nikon N90s, F100, F6Digital Camera I reccommend Nikon D200, maybe D80.For setting indoors without a flash, the place should be lit up pretty good. For digital go with these settings and then adjust as you see the pics. ISO rating 1600...shutter speed 1/125 maybe 1/60...aperture f/5.6 maybe f/4It's best if money is no object to go for a fixed aperture zoom lens of f/2.8 www.samys.com has good prices ands excellent info on their photog stuff. |
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GeorgeY
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: Professional grade digital camera for non-flash photography? |
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| I shoot NBA & WNBA games (indoors without flash) and use a pair of Nikon D70's, currently replaced by the D80. Here are some shots taken at the recent WNBA Playoffs with my 6mp camera, using a Nikon 18-200mm VR & a Nikon 75-300mm zoom. I used ISO 1600 with the lenses wide open with the maximum shutterspeed to capture the action. The images were cropped and resized before uploading.http://www.spmsportspage.com/images/WNBA/2007/playoffs/Sacramento-Monarchs-86-vs-San-Antoino-SiverStars-65-8-2007/DSC_0757_GHYoung.htmlAnd here are some more, taken from high in the stands of the stadium at the recent Cal vs. Tennessee game. I was using a Nikon D50 (recently replaced by the D40) and shooting with my 18-200mm VR lens. ISO settings ranged from 400-1600 as the light dimmed that evening. Photos were also cropped and resized before uploading.http://www.spmsportspage.com/images/college/football/2007/California-45-Tennessee-31-09-01-2007/DSC_0065_GHYoung.htmlI love my Nikons and highly recommend them. Remember, my cameras are 'old and outdated' in the minds of many. But I guess they do pretty well, right?For a novice, I'd recommend the Nikon D40, D40x, or D80, dependent upon your budget. Then look at the great new 70-300mm VR lens. The VR (vibration reduction) feature virtually eliminates the need for a tripod! Some more info for you here on shooting sports:http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/sports.htmIf you have any other questions, please ask.I hope this is helpful for you. |
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